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Javab Deh – June 28th, 2009

Submitted by on June 28, 2009 – 10:53 am16 Comments

Iftikhar Ahmed presents a fresh episode of Jawab Deyh and talks with Owais Ahmed Ghani Governor NWFP.

http://mastichoice.com/JawabDeyh28june2009.flv
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  • afzaalkhan says:

    ohh yee of lil faith, its not lie its a politician stating facts — lol

    Thats said I for one have no regret abt bugti killing, khas kam jahan paak, while we at it kill all the other sardars too. Khatey hain pak ka, rehtey hain karachi main, bhoonktey hain india aur afghnaistan ki zaban.

    • afzaalkhan says:

      Y should I mourn for Bugti? How convinient for us to forget how many people he killed and how many families he ruined. The constant threat to Gas in the are posed by the retard was sufficient to put his ass in jail.

      Its abt my right to disagree u can agree or disagree. Regarding the operation in FATA and Swat I have always said, u can’t start fight in that area in this way. I dun agree with the tactic I never said I dun think operation was not neccessary, and despite all my reservatiion I will back army cuz I will never agree to see my army loose to anyone who they face.

      • afzaalkhan says:

        so now we can’t have difference of opinion? and u called me baboons? lol mate allow difference of opinion. Duun matter if that pisses u off. Counter it with argument not by just swearing and pissing on the site. Whats the difference then with other sites?

  • afzaalkhan says:

    To Our Politicians: Bugti or Pakistan?

    ISLAMABAD, Pakistan— The death of Mr. Akbar Bugti reveals some serious problems within Pakistani politics. A major outpost of foreign interference in Pakistan is eliminated. But reading the reactions of most Pakistani politicians, you’d think the deceased was Nelson Mandela and not someone who made blowing up telephone and power lines a legitimate negotiating tool.

    Pakistan should have moved decisively against Mr. Bugti’s foreign-armed and foreign-financed terrorism long time ago. The indecision has emboldened India and Afghanistan to meddle in domestic Pakistani issues without the slightest concern for a Pakistani reprisal.

    Even sadder is that no Pakistani politician is willing to stress the primacy of the Pakistani state over petty domestic politics. No Pakistani politician is willing to say that the State takes precedence over any one individual. If no one is willing to say it, Islamabad should have said it loud and clear. But, surprisingly, government ministers came out weak and apologetic in defending Pakistan’s position.

    Islamabad’s reaction to Mr. Bugti’s death should have been this, “Mr. Bugti and his terrorists are dead. Collaborating with foreigners against Pakistan is not negotiable and will never be.” Not taking this position has sown seeds of doubt and confusion within the Pakistani public opinion and will give anti-Pakistan elements another chance, considering that the first chance – Mr. Bugti himself – has been eliminated.

    The incident also highlights an old fact: Pakistani politics is a dirty, immature business. In defending Mr. Bugti, no one seems to be bothered that the late politician-turned-terrorist was recruiting young Pakistanis to destroy their own nation from within, running private militias and underground jails, and conducting his own direct communications with other countries in a direct challenge to the entire Pakistani nation. Mr. Bugti’s unforgivable crime remains the targeting of Chinese citizens living and working peacefully in Pakistan. Thanks to Mr. Bugti, Chinese diplomatic missions in Pakistan were forced to issue safety alerts to their citizens for the first time in the great history of Sino-Pakistani relations.

    It is criminal on the part of some of our politicians that no one is mentioning the crimes committed by Mr. Bugti against his tribe, the Pakistani nation and against our great country.

    As a first step to redress this situation, the entire Pakistani political class, opposition and government, should strongly reject Indian and Afghan statements on the death of Mr. Bugti. If we let this pass without a common stand, Pakistan’s standing will be affected in the region. This should not be allowed at any cost.

    Second, Islamabad should show some spine. Half-hearted statements coming from the ministers – “It was not intended”, “We exhausted political channels”, etc – is conveying weakness on the part of the Pakistani state.

    Third, senior Pakistani politicians should shun opportunism, and especially avoid turning a terrorist into a national hero. No other State in the world could have tolerated half the activities that Mr. Bugti has been allowed to do in recent years. He reaped what he sowed.

    And finally, his death should be read for what it really is: A message to all outside Pakistan who have thought that creating and nurturing assets inside Pakistan can be a viable business. The result is clear. Pakistan will not allow this.

  • afzaalkhan says:

    well there is no point of debating. I tot we here to debate and present our views, no matter how different they may be.

  • taukeer says:

    @Nota and Afzaal come on guys! Lets have debate. There is no point anyone leaving bcos of difference of opinion

  • mayoos-paki says:

    listen guys the disagreement is between to users not admin of SD so whats the point in leaving the site?

  • taukeer says:

    In my opinion AQ is *ss l*****g *** who can’t tell his two ends. And we can take any of the articles and dissect it to pieces.

  • afzaalkhan says:

    could be so that AQ is a moron. My point was Bugti was no innocent baba ji or bystander. He had blood on his hands and long list of crimes, I for one feel no sympathy for him.

  • Observer says:

    @Afzaal

    “My point was Bugti was no innocent baba ji or bystander. He had blood on his hands and long list of crimes, I for one feel no sympathy for him.”

    Bugti might have blood on his hands, but the way Moshe killed him is not the way out of troubled waters. In fact it will only worsen the crisis if you use military force against alleged culprits. You have a similar case in Swat right now, where the military is being used. Where will it end? Do you really think there will any positive outcome?

    IMO the Bugti case had nothing to do with justice/law and order. It had everything to do with the size of bone for each party i.e. money.

    There is only ONE way out and that is to provide justice and ensure that culprits are dealt with according to the law of Pakistan and not the wishes of the establishment=dictation from foreigners.

    • afzaalkhan says:

      agree with you on the solution, I have np with mushy being hangeed for killing of bugti among others. My sole point was I (myself, personally) dun feel any loss for Bugti death. As far I am personally concerned good riddance. If this brings hanging of Mushy so much the better.

  • taukeer says:

    @afzaalkhan I agree Bughti might not have been a saint but his main “crime” was that he challenged Mushy and for that alone I will defend him.

    In addition he was a counterweight to Marrys. I know the idealist will disagree but the reality of Baluchistan politics is that all politics is local and Tribal. Bughti’s loss is a major loss for the state of Pakistan.

    Coming back to AQ his biggest shortcoming as an analyst is that he wants to justify anything Mush did. I know recently he has moved away and is trying to gain some credibility but he has a long way to go before his word could be taken at face value.

  • Observer says:

    @Taukeer

    “I know recently he has moved away and is trying to gain some credibility but he has a long way to go before his word could be taken at face value.”

    To prevent lotaism we have to let the people, who change their mind frequently, know that their actions/deeds have consequences. One has to be ready for a “public trial” when BIG blunders are made like continuous defence of a MAD dictator!

    Btw: I am not saying that one cannot change opinion. I am saying that one must not have a corrupt mind. We are all humans and can commit and “honest” mistake every now and then, but the case about defence of Moshe cannot be termed as an “honest” mistake. It was a deliberate mistake with the aim to keep the people of Pakistan in darkness.

  • taukeer says:

    @Nota quoting someone does not mean 100% agreement with any of their utterances for ever. I remember quoting people who I have fundamental disputes with e.g if I quote Bush and his declaration of “crusade” does not mean that I am in agreement with him.

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