Bol Ke Lab Azad Hain Tere – January, 2010
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ARY: Nine killed in Lakki Marwat suicide attack
At least nine people have been killed and another 20 wounded in a suicide attack here Friday evening, reported ARY NEWS.
According to preliminary reports, a suicide bomber rammed his explosives-laden vehicle into the outer wall of a ground in Shah Hassan Khail area.
Nine deaths have so far been confirmed in the attack while more than 20 others were injured who were rushed to District Hospital and other nearby medical facilities.
Police, other law enforcement agencies’ personnel and paramedics arrived at the scene soon after the attack and carried out emergency relief activities. The area has been cordoned off, it was reported.
Geo: Death toll in Laki Marwat blast climbs to 47
LAKI MARWAT: At least 47 people were killed and several other wounded on Saturday after a suicide bomber blew himself up at a volleyball ground in Shah Hassankhel town of Laki Marwat.
The blast took place at a time when a volleyball match was in progress at the targeted ground.
Laki Marwat DPO Ayub Khan confirmed that 47 people had died in the deadly suicide attack.
The DPO said the injured were shifted to the Laki Marwat District Hospital.
According to reports a nearby house was also collapsed due to the blast.
The Shah Hassankhel is said to be the hub of militants who were forced to flee the area with the help of peace committees.
@nota
Geo group hai bhayya “aman ki aasha”. Geo ko phir doora para freindship ka. India isliye khara hota hai humarey sir par we keep dying for freindship. States donot have freindships they have mutual intersts. Pakistan and India has no mutual interests and frankly speaking I want to have complete cross border blockade on both sides. Only flying available. Jisko dostee ka shouq hai india ja ke rahey.
Ralph Nader of the Uncle Tom fame spelling it out for those who can’t see.
Looks like Obama is going to be one term president. You heard it here first!!!
Maybe he thinks Baloch card is more potent then Sindh card!
I am afraid I have given up on Ayaz BayzAmir!
ISRAEL DENIES OPERATING ISLAMIC TERRORIST ORGANIZATION
AIMED AT UNITED STATES
BBC Middle East
Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh has said the security forces have arrested a group of alleged Islamist militants linked to Israeli intelligence. Mr Saleh did not say what evidence had been found to show the group’s links with Israel, a regional enemy of Yemen. The arrests were connected with an attack on the US embassy in Sanaa last month which killed at least 18 people, official sources were quoted saying.
Israel’s foreign ministry has rejected the accusation as “totally ridiculous”.
“A terrorist cell was arrested and will be referred to the judicial authorities for its links with the Israeli intelligence services,” Mr Saleh told a gathering at al-Mukalla University in Hadramawt province.
“Details of the trial will be announced later. You will hear about what goes on in the proceedings,” he added.
The 17 September attack was the second to target the US embassy since April. Militants detonated car bombs before firing rockets at the heavily fortified building.
Mr Saleh did not identify the suspects, but official sources were quoted saying it was same cell – led by a militant called Abu al-Ghaith al-Yamani – whose arrest was announced a week after the attack.
An Israeli foreign ministry spokesman said the Yemeni president’s statement was without foundation.
“To believe that Israel would create Islamist cells in Yemen is really far-fetched. This is yet another victory for the proponents of conspiracy theories,” Igal Palmor said in remarks reported by AFP.
U.S. – Israeli Complicity in Terror Plots Exposed, FBI, Media Cover-Up Flight 253 Plot
01 Jan, 2010 OM Reporting Desk
Uncomfortable facts are emerging from the terror plot on Delta Northwest Airlines Flight 253 from Amsterdam to Detroit
High-level help in yet another terror plot is emerging, along with U.S. F.B.I. and D.O.J. cover-up of the facts and outright involvement. History is rife with examples of intelligence agencies setting up terror plots – sometimes with unintended victims and consequences – and the Delta 253 terror plot is the latest such plot to have gone wrong.
Evidence is mounting of U.S. and Israeli complicity [link] in this latest plot. The father Alhaji Umaru Abdul Mutallab of the young terrorist, is an accomplished Nigerian banker [link] and ran the national arms industry (DICON) in patnership with Israel, Nigeria has extensive intelligence links to Israel [link].
The young man, son of the above, who tried to blow up the plane is a 23 year old Nigerian named Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab; he has attended the British International School, Lome, Togo and studied engineering at the University College, London and was a master’s in international business degree student at the Dubai campus of an Australian University [link].
A wife of his father, is from Yemen, and frequently travels to the United States, and Umar Farouk Abdul-Mutallab holds a Nigerian passport with a mutiple entry visa to the United States, which is valid until June 2010.
The young man fell out with his father, and chose to visit Yemen and mix with islamist terrorists, to join with those he believed to be at the opposite end of his father’s allegiences (money, USA, banking, arms industry). He will not have known that those terrorists in Yemen are supported [link] by Israel’s MOSSAD.
From there the young Mutallab sent a text message to his family in Nigeria renouncing them, which led his father, who is received as a VIP by the U.S. embassy in the capital Abuja, to visit that embassy to alert the U.S. of his son’s activities in Yemen, on November 19.
As a result this information is shared by the U.S. embassy with U.S. agencies, resulting in the son being placed on a terror watch list. For this reason, the son cannot show that passport or he would be unable to board the Northwest Airlines flight from Amsterdam, where he flew after returning via Nigeria from Yemen.
(It is claimed by U.S. media that in Yemen he even met up with some of those released [link] without charge from Guantanamo. 92% of those held and tortured by the U.S. for many years, were innocent of any terrorism, 6% were involved with the Taliban in Afghanistan, and at most 2% were said to have anything to do with Al-Qaida. We can trust the U.S. to have released any real terrorists, and to continue to hold any innocents.)
Instead of thus trying to fly on his compromised passport, the disheveled and poor-looking Mutallab is escorted by an expensively clothed Indian-looking man of around 50 years of age, who tells the boarding gate check box that Mutallab is a Sudanese and needs to board without a passport, and that “we do this all the time.” Mutallab is silent and obedient, the Indian does all the talking.
The check in staff at the gate, naturally refuses, but takes the pair away to see their superior to deal with this case, and the entire conversation up to that point was overheard, unfortunately for the conspirators as it turns out, by successful Michigan lawyer Kuret Haskell, who is sitting a few feet away with his wife Lori, on their way home to the U.S. after a visit to Africa.
Naturally, as all things at European airports, all movements of all people are recorded on CCTV video, so it would be easy to track and identify the “Indian” accomplice of the bomber-to-be. Yet, as happened in London with the infamous 7/7 bombings, this material appears to be withheld from media and the public, and we are told to believe “authorities” there that there is no Indian and no accomplice.
Remarkable too is that these security companies involved with European airports are often Israeli, and run by ex-military or ex-MOSSAD Israeli agents, on the pretext that the threat is from islamist terrorists, an area Israel has experience with, but which then does not allow for checks against Israeli MOSSAD “false flag” operations, with ever tighter measures implemented against the public.
Meanwhile while the public is subjected to ever more discomforts and irrational fake security measures whilst keeping the terror threat alive, but military jets, private aircraft, and CIA-rented aircraft freely enter and leave European and other airports, often without any security checks or searches, with “VIP” passengers thus able to enter and leave countries often without any visa, as we learnt from the “extra-ordinary” rendition of U.S. abducted prisoners through Europe.
Back to the terror plot under examination. Shortly after the young Mutallab terrorist and his wealthy VIP “Indian” handler disappeared down the corridor to see higher-ups, the passengers along with the Haskells, boarded the flight. As there was no delay for departure to wait for the terrorist, it is evident that clearing the terrorist with the higher-ups took a matter of a minute or so – the “Indian” obviously has a high-level pass (CIA, MOSSAD or high level security clout).
Then the flight proceeds over the Atantic Ocean with no peculiar events, except for one man sitting somewhere in front of row 19 – the row the young terrorist is seated in – who films much of the flight on his cam corder, always facing back wards toward the terrorist, whom he is recording with extensive video footage. This passenger too, we are not told about, are not to ask about, and we do not get to see his video.
In a CNN News program [LINK], passenger Richelle Keepman states, “There was a man that, when we first took off, I noticed about 10 seats ahead of us to the left-hand side. He had a camcorder. I thought maybe this was his first flight and [he] was just excited. And then, when the actual incident occurred, I looked up, and he was the only one standing and filming the entire thing.” In another CNN article [LINK], she states, “I don’t know why he was standing up [when] we were supposed to be seated, and he was filming it.”
The Haskells are sitting 8 rows behind, in row 27. Kurt Haskell does not notice the young terrorist again until shortly before landing, when passengers have already been instructed to buckle up for landing. A stewardess walks past mumbling something about the smell of smoke, and sure enough fire flames errupt from around the seat of the young Abdul-Mutallab, who is subdued immediately by passengers, the small and now wounded man offering no resistance.
Throughout this incident however, the man continues recording the terrorist, calmly and without interruption. Very unusual behaviour, as observed by many other passengers on board this flight. Then the pilot comes onto the intercom, somewhat nervously, to briefly announce an immediate landing, and the plane is floored, but then remains on the tarmac for 20 minutes before anyone is allowed to leave.
This 20 minute delay, is only something that can happen at a U.S. airport, the inefficiency of security and systems in the U.S. are well known to the world, both pre-9/11 and after it. Anywhere else in the world, such an aircraft with a subdued terrorist on board, would be evacuated immediately, and anywhere else in the world, passengers would be told to leave all baggage behind. Not so in the U.S.A.
After that 20 minute delay putting all passengers at danger of further fire as it had not been established that the aircraft was safe or that the fire had not spread out of sight into the skin of the craft or toward the fuel tanks, or bombs that may be stashed and detonate, the passengers are made to sit with all their luggage for around six hours as they are slowly interviewed by FBI agents and others.
After around an hour, dogs that arrived, sniffing for explosives, loved the smell of explosive substances in an Indian looking man’s bag (Haskell confirms this Indian is much younger than the one in Amsterdam, who was not on board the flight) and this Indian is taken away in handcuffs. Yet, after this too, we no longer can hear any information about this Indian or what happened to him.
After that incident, an FBI officer makes an extraordinary announcement [LINK] to the passengers, which Haskell recounts to popular alternative media investigative journalist Alex Jones during an extensive interview [link] also detailing his FBI [link] interview, moving them to another location for the remaining 5 hours, and out of sight.
Although very important and reliable witnesses with essential testimony, the Haskells are not contacted for several days. Then the FBI pays a visit [LINK] to their law offices, show them various photographs, attempt to impeach them, and fail to produce any video from Holland or anywhere else for that matter, fail to show full body photographs of the terrorist, only facial shots. They clearly are fishing for how much the Haskells saw, and not for the (Indian [link]) accomplice(s) [link], at least one of which is obviously working with the full protection of the authorities.
CONCLUSIONS
Other parts of the story can be guessed at or surmised, for example, that the “Al-Qaida” claims [link] are the work of MOSSAD with its agents in the CIA, and are designed to garner public support for stepped up U.S.-Israeli involvement in the recent war between the Yemeni government and those terrorists, which have consistently been supported by London and covertly by Israel. Or that the young terrorist thought he would really be blowing himself up and that the well dressed 50-ish year old Indian escort of his was a high-level “Al-Qaida” officer sent to help him and that he was really on a jihad mission and destined for Paradise. Or even that he was hypnotised [LINK] or drugged. That his handlers knew full well that smoke and burns would only result as they ensured the device would not work (a would-be suicide-bomber can never test their equipment in advance, for obvious reasons), and that they would have a wall-to-wall TV worldwide coverage of the ongoing threat of Al-Qaida, terrorism, and of the “need” to take away further liberties in order to defeat it.
The timing of the latest terror threat could not be more convenient for the US terror and war industry: only two weeks prior president Obama was refused an extension and expansion [link] of the infamous Patriot Act rushed in after 9/11 and since then used extensively for spying [link] on the American populace. At the time the administration was only granted a 60 day extension until February. The broadcast of a “live” terror attack on an American aircraft will ensure that the CIA gets everything they ask for next time round. It will also boost the calls for a direct American involvement in Yemen, where the Obama administration has started a proxy war through Saudi Arabia, and it will give the security industry the green light for installing the body scanners they trialled in various countries amidst concerns of invasion of privacy. Amsterdam Schiphol has already announced their immediate deployment – this news item incidentally also notes a dutch investigation concluded that it was American security officials at Schiphol, who cleared the passengers to board the flight.
The cat is now literally out of the bag and cannot be put back. The awareness of people of all walks of life, like the Haskells, who are able to observe and think logically, ensures that sound conclusions are drawn on at least some issues such as this one. Several gaping holes are blown in the official version of events: the failure to produce the airport security video from Amsterdam Schipol, the “video passenger” on the plane, and the disappearing Indian(s). This awareness offers some faint glimmer of hope that one day enough people will put their trust, support and money into true news media networks such as Mathaba to stay informed rather than continue to swallow the misleading disinformation and continuously forgive the 3-letter money slave media (MSM) networks for their repeated and ongoing failures to cover news and issues that matter.
Mathaba urges any other witnesses at the airports at Amsterdam and Detroit as well as any passengers or crew from the Northwest Airlines flight, or anyone else with direct information to come forward via our secure contact form and to share that. Mathaba is the only news agency with a secure contact form so that witnesses and whistle-blowers can provide information without fear of being traced by their government, terrorists, or hackers. General contact is also available. We ask that you supply your contact details so that we can follow up and verify, and assure you that we honor the journalist tradition of confidentiality – whatever is told to us in confidence or not to be on the record, is not disclosed. We hope that more good citizens will come forward to back up existing testimonies or offer any further information that may help.
Note: For those wanting to delve deeper into the details of facts, opinions and logical deductions surrounding this case, the links in the article above serve as good starting points for further research.
Mathaba Report
Gilani and Mukhtar Mediating!!!!! Like “galti per tail dalna” These dumb asses wont know what hit them even if it came and whispered in their ears.
I am sorry but sitting where I am I can’t see anyone in PPP with the political sophistication to firefight this situation. If they stay in power it is / will not be due to their own political capabilities.
My exact thought! What amazes me is the audacity of their thought process!!!!
I had suspected PPP (especially Mirza Sindhu Desh’s) connection in whole of this episode.
Listen to this moron.
Does this not follow in the great tradition of the “Great” Leader of the Idhur Hum Udhar Tumm.
CAN WE START A FEHMEEDA MIRZA (The bitch) NA-KHAPEY campaign.
This Daku blackmailer family will now determine the fate of the entire nation. And the “sound effect”. This f***** and his bitch can be employed as villain in a third rate Punjabi / Sindhi film.
Mossad false flag operations are becoming too common place and predictable. I am not at all surprised about their involvement in Yemen. What better excuse for occupation of the Arabian peninsula then the tried and tested old trick of “attack on the homeland”.
The rich are the new poor. This IS Orwell’s Animal farm!
OMG are these guys really sane?
This is not butt kissing, this is full zina-bil-raza.
@mayoos-paki
LOL i have such comments but me decent lolz. I would calll it “mujrimana hamla” on pakistan. lol
Mirza stands no chance
Raja Riaz outstanding
R these guys for real! WTF
According to ABC news, the Al Qaeda leaders running the insurgency in Yemen were released from Guantanamo, although two of the highest ranking known terrorist there, without trial.
Guantanamo prisoner #333, Muhamad Attik al-Harbi, and prisoner #372, Said Ali Shari, were sent to Saudi Arabia on Nov. 9, 2007, according to the Defense Department log of detainees who were released from American custody.
Both of the former Guantanamo detainees are described as military commanders and appear on a January, 2009 video along with the man described as the top leader of al Qaeda in Yemen, Abu Basir Naser al-Wahishi, formerly Osama bin Laden’s personal secretary.
With all the hoopla about trials in New York, not a word is said when top level terrorists are released to Saudi friends of the Bush family who let them go. We are now fighting these two Bush friends in Yemen. They are running a major insurgency there. We have been using Cruise missiles and our jets to attack their bases in the last weeks.
CIA, ISRAEL AND YEMEN
It is claimed by groups claiming to be Al Qaeda in Yemen that the Detroit attack was in retaliation to US attacks on bases in Yemen run by Al Qaeda leaders released by Bush.
The government of Yemen, as reported in the BBC , says that the Al Qaeda terrorists, led by those released by Bush, are really Israeli agents though they have organized attacks against US targets:
Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh has said the security forces have arrested a group of alleged Islamist militants linked to Israeli intelligence. Mr Saleh did not say what evidence had been found to show the group’s links with Israel, a regional enemy of Yemen. The arrests were connected with an attack on the US embassy in Sanaa last month which killed at least 18 people, official sources were quoted saying.
“A terrorist cell was arrested and will be referred to the judicial authorities for its links with the Israeli intelligence services,” Mr Saleh told a gathering at al-Mukalla University in Hadramawt province. “Details of the trial will be announced later. You will hear about what goes on in the proceedings,” he added.
The 17 September attack was the second to target the US embassy since April. Militants detonated car bombs before firing rockets at the heavily fortified building.
Mr Saleh did not identify the suspects, but official sources were quoted saying it was same cell – led by a militant called Abu al-Ghaith al-Yamani – whose arrest was announced a week after the attack.
With continual reports from Pakistan that India and Israel have been involved in terrorst attacks against US supporters there and the recent reports that the Detroit bomber was assisted by an Indian while boarding in Amsterdam and partially confirmed reports that a second bomber, an Indian, was arrested and taken from the plane in Detroit. MILive broke this story in the US which originated with Reuters
http://www.mathaba.net/go/?http://www.veteranstoday.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=9951&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
Either its propaganda site or not…site of sorts is not very clear accusation.
Now whats propaganda.
ABC did not say Al-Qaeda leaders released from Gitmo are running the insurgency in Yemen???????…Theres a hyperlink you will be redirected to the source of so called propaganda.
President Saleh did not say whats quoted through BBC ?????? Theres again a hyperlink.
I would understand its propaganda if they are just posting one sided opinion and not quoting the news.
@nota
LOL. Its like austin power’s movie # 2 man. In Iraq they were killing alqaeda no.2 every other week. Eventually even americans started to ask WTF lol
This site is far more reliable than the one hellbent against Aitezaz you brought…that site purely based on speculation without substantiating their claim with viable news.
We have only one way of learning i.e. news rest is our speculations.
What the website quote was news and what you wrote against that news.
“Sure ABC said that but does that make it fact? Do you seriously believe “Al Qaeda leaders ARE running the insurgency in Yemen”? Oh come on!”
So the fact is not what the news says…fact is what nota speculate….no u give me a break.
Do I ,nota or anyone else has to believe
“Al Qaeda leaders ARE running the insurgency in Yemen”
All of us can speculate but the fact remains what the news says.
Western news media is very articulate…they can twist the meanings by choice of calculated words but that twist is for readers perspective…it does not change the essence of event or make it an outright lie.
Recently we had a news about Jundullah and they were termed as “Sunni Militants”.
Theres no doubt Jundullah belong to sunni but as Jundullah they are ethnic minority not a sunni minority.
Facts remains the same they are sunni and they are militants but the use of words were to twist the whole idea of reporting for readers perspective.
You deny the news then put some substance in your speculation…why you think Al-Qaeda can not be in bed with Saudis and Americans…its not enough because nota thinks so.
“Western news media is very articulate…they can twist the meanings by choice of calculated words but that twist is for readers perspective…it does not change the essence of event or make it an outright lie.”
“Theres no doubt Jundullah belong to sunni but as Jundullah they are ethnic minority not a sunni minority”.
Man, do you even understand the meaning of what you are typing. This is so fvcked up. Please DO ignore my comments as you will NOT comprehend them. We exist on different planes….
“We exist on different planes…”
Off course I exist on different plane.
I am not a mukhanas
I never knew this guy!
Mubashar Luqman lays into Fauzia Wahab!
Looks like you have a longstanding habit of having dodgy company!
I don’t know the guy just came across him on youtube but thanks for the warning.
Pl someone tell me if Al-Qaeda really exist.
Wheres there head office how they function and how they get resources.
Who is incharge of Banking and funds and how they communicate.
Who supply them arms.
World powers may be helpless to catch Bin Ladin but failure to cut their workability is nothing but a chota mota very big nota joke.
If u believe Al-Qaeda dun exist then u seriously has a problem. As for capturing Osama Bin laden u might want to read new congressional hearing documents realeased which detaisl how Osama escaped from tora bora.
BTW were u aware that Mullah Omar under Taliban had no problem handing Osama and Co to
a) KSA
b) another muslim country
c) To international court.
There will be no love lost this tiem around if Taliban comes back to power they will not hesitate to go after AL-Qaeda as it is Gulbadeena nd Haaqaani network are already Al-Qaeda’s sworn enemies.
Lollllzzzz afzal khan
I was not talking about their mere existence…..Off course they exist as long as Bin Ladin is not willfully caught I was talking about their workable existence as a potent terrorist organization.
well then u need to learn abt movements wat in urdu we cal tehreek. Osama can be killed and al-qaeda top ldeaership can be wiped out, but thier ideology and structure will remain intact. Alqaeda in arabian penisula has no direct linkage to osama or the one in somalia, they have just taken the ideology and running with it. Al-qaeda strength has always been independent and autonomous confined cell, who do thier own stuff. That wat made alqaeda so successfu, every tom dick and harry using alqaeda name for thier activity.
That is some big awesome ststement
“but thier ideology and structure will remain intact.”
BTW I hate to use stupid lolz but to match afzal khan high intellectuality I have to elevate myself to lolllzzzz
Knock it off guys or exchange phone numbers and show ur love there. Come on now guys.
“Man, I had a good one”
You haven’t seen yet
Yaar guys please be civil to each other. At least stop swearing.
ARY: Appeal filed against Murtaza Bhutto case verdict
An appeal has been filed in Sindh High Court on Tuesday against the verdict of Mir Murtaza Bhutto murder case.
Noor Mohammed, a personal servant of Murtaza Bhutto, has filed appeal against acquittal of accused in the case.
A Karachi court in its verdict on December 05 last year, acquitted 22 police men named in the case.
I second that!!! I know I know! Anyway we should all be kinder to each other!
Qts? NS gonna contest?
Geo: ECP set Feb 24 for by-polls on NA-55
RAWALPINDI: The Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) has announced to hold by-elections for the National Assembly’s constituency NA-55 on February 24.
According to the ECP, appeals against approval or rejection of the nomination papers can be submitted by January 25.
It said that decisions on appeals would be announced by January 29 while nomination papers can be withdrawn by February 1.
sab ki apas mian rihsteydariyaan hain. Who knows who is where. But seriously wasn’t NS contesting that seat and sheeda is already contesting. Would be interested to know if NS willing to contest. That would tell us abt govt survival
they also alleging PPP helping Sheeda to win the seat lol
wah wah
i hope when he said “fitree ittihadi” he talking abt democratic partner instead of political partues being same. Oh Man kia hoga humaree qaum ka
ROFL. Didn’t read that ganja buhat rami hai, me likey that statement very much pissing off ppp lolz
I think NS is cautious with his statements.
Democracy could be compromised against corruption
Pakistan is more important than democracy
Now sticking with Zardari…actually he made a political statement…intentionally he did not say “sticking with PRESIDENT of Pakistan” because he was in Sind and among top PPP provincial leadership.
When he said Zardari dumped by his party…in reality he hit the whole party as bunch of opportunist.
Resident mukhans said
“Now that speaks volumes as far as I am concerned”
Now who told this mukhanas to write few of his own lines besides copy paste.
dude which part of no persona attacks u dun udnerstand, u picking a fight once again out of no where, why dun u stick with arguing ur position? Personal attacks won’t lend credence to ur opinions and positions.
Both of u need to take a chill pill. Please lets move on
I never said
AA is as pure as captain afzaal khan
That site you brought on definitely was a propaganda site and cheap as you are
@nota
wassup with AA bashing? I mean is hamam main sab he nangey hain atleast he did kuffara with judicial movement. Am not saying make him PM, which btw could be on horizon if zardari continues with madness. Not trying to defend AA was just wondering wassup?
@nota
yaar u have a serious problem. Ur idea is right of revolution and getting rid of the whole crop. The implementation is not feasible for variety of reasons and I think u smart enuff to know them.
Media ki bhi majboori hai, Talat wrote a column few days ago lamenting same thing, saying we know but our hands tied cuz if we start exposing everyone noone will be left behind. They need to keep AA clean as alternative. AA has firmly gone with establishment he has infact become establishment. I will once again reiterates till we get a messiah, which I dun see coming any time soon, why not legalize corruption as west has done. End of all problems.
ARY: US embassy complains of harassment of diplomats
The U.S. Embassy in Islamabad complained Thursday that its diplomats are being harassed and detained as they travel in the country, illustrating heightened tensions between the allies as America expands its presence here.
The rare public protest reflects the rising frustration among U.S. officials over alleged Pakistani efforts to stymie Washington’s moves to add hundreds more staff and more space to its embassy in Islamabad.
U.S. officials say they need more room and people to help disburse a $7.5 billion humanitarian aid package to Pakistan, whose cooperation Washington needs to fight al-Qaida-allied militants along the Pakistan-Afghan border.
But suspicion of U.S. motives abounds among Pakistanis: Many believe the U.S. is simply flooding the country with more spies whose ultimate aim is destabilizing Pakistan and taking over its nuclear program.
In recent weeks, American diplomats have faced lengthy delays in receiving approvals for visas and visa extensions. Some also have been stopped at checkpoints by police who have in a couple of cases temporarily confiscated their vehicles. Some of the incidents have been publicized in the Pakistani press.
On Wednesday, two Pakistani employees of a U.S. consulate and their police escort were detained while traveling in Baluchistan to prepare for a visit involving a development project, an embassy statement said. It called upon Pakistani officials “to cease these contrived incidents involving U.S. mission vehicles and personnel.”
The statement also quoted U.S. Ambassador Anne Patterson as pushing Pakistan to implement an agreement to identify diplomatic vehicles in a safe manner.
The agreement lets those vehicles carry normal Pakistani license plates on the outside — so as not to be identified as U.S. vehicles and easily targeted by militants — while carrying special diplomatic plates inside to show polices, embassy spokesman Rick Snelsire said.
“There was an agreement on that,” Snelsire said. “We’re waiting for the agreement to be implemented.”
The Pakistani Foreign Ministry’s spokesman could not immediately be reached for comment.
Snelsire said U.S. Embassy employees were still experiencing delays in visa approvals, despite appeals to Pakistani authorities.
“They don’t tend to reject visas; they just don’t issue them,” Snelsire said. “We’re still working on refining the process.”
The U.S. Embassy in Islamabad has plans to go from about 500 American employees to more than 800 over the next 18 months, largely to accommodate the aid package, which provides $1.5 billion annually over five years for economic and social programs.
@nota and Jazoo
Stop Swearing guys am tired of deleting ur comments. U both are adults and enuff is enuff no needs to swear at each other. Plz be considerate. I have been asking very politely from both of you. I respect ur opinions and comments plz respect mine. Thanks.
Damn all I can say
Seems I have been missing action between nota and jazoo.
Admin, why are you deleting the golden words?
I think CJ should put them behind loan sharkers asap.
Sooner they get busy better for discussion boards.
Here we go haroon Rasheed bhanda bhreeing – LOL
HR is one of the few honest journalists we have
20 Tons daily quota means
20000 kg @profit of Rs 21/kg
Rs420000/daily profit
1.26 crores monthly profit
Now how much he needs for bacha fee
That was quote of the day
“Zardari was stunned and talk to one of his friend I was planning to take care of his expenses for the next century.”
Shireen Mazari: The Ann Coulter Of Pakistan
Ok the whole article is full of BS and outright lies, I will quote some passages from the article those who interested can read it fully. But that is to be expected from a rag called The New Republic, I am posting Huffpo link below too plz do read comments and check out the liberal, woman right US population’s thinking.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/08/shireen-mazari-the-ann-co_n_416279.html
The Dark Side of the “Special Relationship”
By Justin Raimondo,
http://intifada- palestine. com/2009/ 10/27/the- dark-side- of-the-special- relationship% e2%80%9d/
A silent battle has been raging right under our noses, a fierce underground struggle pitting the U.S. against one of its closest allies. For all its newsworthiness, the media has barely noticed the story — except when it surfaces, briefly, like a giant fin jutting above the waves. The aggressor in this war is the state of Israel, with the U.S., its sponsor and protector, playing defense. This is the dark side of the “special relationship” — a battle of spy vs. spy.
Convicted spy Jonathan Pollard — now serving a life sentence — stole secrets so vital that an attempt by the Israelis to get him pardoned was blocked by a massive protest from the intelligence and defense communities. Bill Clinton wanted to trade Pollard for Israeli concessions in the ongoing “peace process,” and he was only prevented from doing so by a threat of mass resignations by the top leadership of the intelligence community.
The reason for their intransigence: among the material Pollard had been asked by his Israeli handlers to steal was the U.S. attack plan against the Soviet Union. According to Seymour Hersh, then-CIA director Bill Casey claimed Tel Aviv handed over the information to Moscow in exchange for relaxation of travel restrictions on Soviet Jews, who were then allowed to emigrate to Israel.
The Pollard case is emblematic — but it was just the beginning of a years-long effort by U.S. counterintelligence to rid themselves of the Israeli incubus. Law enforcement was — and presumably still is — convinced Pollard was very far from alone, and that a highly placed “mole” had provided him with key information. In his quest to procure very specific information, Pollard knew precisely which documents to look for — knowledge he couldn’t access without help from someone very high in government circles.
In addition, the National Security Agency (NSA) intercepted a phone conversation between an Israeli intelligence officer and his boss in Tel Aviv, during which they discussed how to get hold of a letter by then-secretary of state Warren Christopher to Yasser Arafat. The Washington spy suggested they use “Mega,” but his boss demurred: “This is not something we use Mega for,” he averred.
The search for Mega and his underlings continues to this day, as U.S. counterintelligence attempts to rip up what appears to be a vast Israeli spy operation by its very deep roots. That’s why they went after Ben Ami Kadish, who handed over U.S. secrets to Tel Aviv and shared a handler with Pollard, and why they indicted Steve Rosen and Keith Weissman, two top officials of AIPAC, the powerful pro-Israel lobbying group. That’s why they were listening on the other end as Jane Harman promised an Israeli agent to intervene in the Rosen-Weissman case. And now a new front has been opened up in this subterranean war with the arrest of Stewart David Nozette, a top U.S. scientist who worked for the Pentagon, had access to the most closely guarded nuclear secrets, and was the lead scientist in the search for water on the moon.
The more thrilling and latest espionage with continuation of above story is here.
Nozette’s case is interesting because of his impressive resume: he held top positions with the Department of Energy, the Department of Defense, and NASA, and he served on the White House National Space Council under George H.W. Bush. From 1989 until March 2006, he held “Q” clearance, which means he had access to “critical nuclear weapon design information” and vital information concerning 20 “special access programs” — secrets only a very few top government officials had knowledge of.
In other words, this wasn’t just some mid-level schmuck who wanted to sell out his country for cash: he was one of the big boys — the principal author of the Clementine biostatic radar experiment, which allowed U.S. scientists to discover water on the moon — a kind of J. Robert Oppenheimer figure, whose singular contributions to the U.S. space program and its military applications granted him security clearances available to a very select few.
The affidavit in support of the criminal complaint [.pdf] alleging espionage is terse, vague in parts, and brimming with implication. Taking their cues from the Department of Justice press release, most news reports state, “The complaint does not allege that the government of Israel or anyone acting on its behalf committed any offense under U.S. laws,” leaving out the last three words in the DOJ’s sentence: “in this case.”
In this particular case, it’s true, prosecutors are going after Nozette for violations that occurred while they were reeling him in, with a federal agent pretending to be a Mossad officer offering him money (not very much, by the way) in exchange for secrets. The real question, however, is what caused them to zero in on Nozette? A Washington Times piece cites Kenneth Piernick, a former senior FBI agent, who opined:
He must have made some kind of attempt, which triggered the FBI’s interest in him. They cut in between him and whoever he was trying to work with and posed as an intelligence officer, agent, or courier to handle the issue, and then when he delivered what he intended to deliver to that person, his contact was likely an undercover FBI agent or [someone from] another U.S. intelligence service
Yet Nozette may have made more than a mere “attempt.” The affidavit alleges that, from 1998 to 2008, he served as a consultant to “an aerospace company wholly owned by the government of Israel,” during which time “approximately once a month representatives of the aerospace company proposed questions, or taskings, to Nozette.” He answered these questions, and, in return, received regular payments totaling $250,000.
This indicates the Feds had been on to Nozette for quite some time, and with good cause. The affidavit also notes that, at the beginning of this year, he traveled to “a different foreign country” in possession of two computer “thumb” drives, which seemed to have mysteriously disappeared upon his return some three weeks later. What was on the drives — and who were the recipients?
In 2007, federal authorities raided the offices of Nozette’s nonprofit company, the Alliance for Competitive Technology (ACT), purportedly because ACT, having procured several lucrative government contracts, had defrauded the federal government by overcharging. The affidavit cites an anonymous colleague of Nozette who recalled the scientist said that if the U.S. government ever tried to put him in jail he would go to Israel or another foreign country and “tell them everythingâ€� he knows.
Perhaps the real reason for the raid, however, had to do with the FBI’s growing suspicion — if not certainty — he was funneling U.S. secrets to Tel Aviv. ACT is a curious creation, a “nonprofit” group that nevertheless generated over half a million dollars last year according to documents filed with the IRS, with over $150,000 in salary and benefits paid out to Nozette. But it wasn’t just about money. ACT’s mission statement reads like a spy’s dream come true:
“The Alliance for Competitive Technology has been created to serve the national and public interest by conducting scientific research and educational activities aimed at expanding the utilization of National and Government Laboratory resources. The National Laboratories possess significant technology, technologists, and resources, of great potential value to growing U.S. industrial organizations, both small and large. Recent changes in national policy (the Stevenson-Wydler Act of 1986 and the NASA Technology Utilization Program) have sanctioned the pursuit of technology transfer from these organizations. However, the capabilities and resources present in National Laboratories are often difficult to access by small and medium sized organizations with limited resources. ACT will research the best mechanisms to facilitate this transfer through focused research on technology transfer mechanisms, and educational and instructive programs on technology transfer from National Laboratories. In addition, ACT will enable U.S. organizations to utilize the resources of National Laboratories through existing established mechanisms (e.g., the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Technology Affiliates Program). Transfer of commercially valuable technology is significantly enhanced by such direct support of private sector efforts.”
In short: ACT is all about technology transfer — from the U.S. to Israel. This, as is well-known, is one of the favored activities of the Israeli intelligence services, which regularly pilfer the latest American technology (especially military applications) to such an extent that a General Accounting Office investigation once characterized the effort as “the most aggressive espionage operations against the U.S. of any U.S. ally.”
ACT had contracts with the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory in Washington, D.C., the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency in Arlington, Va., and NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md. It is hardly a leap of faith to conclude that vital data flowing from these projects was fed directly into the waiting maw of the Mossad.
Nozette was a key figure in developing and promoting the “Star Wars” ballistic missile defense system. His colleague in the “High Frontier” movement — and the official director of ACT — is one Klaus Heiss, like Nozette an enthusiast [.pdf] of space colonization (who also has some strong views on other subjects).
Contacted by an FBI agent masquerading as an Israeli intelligence agent, Nozette didn’t blink when told his lunch companion was from the Mossad: “Good,” he said. “Happy to be of assistance.” This was well before the issue of money was raised. Later in the conversation, Nozette boasted of his top-level security clearances and the range and depth of his knowledge of U.S. secrets, adding, “I don’t get recruited by the Mossad every day. By the way, I knew this day would come.” Questioned further by the undercover agent, Nozette said, “I thought I was working for you already. I mean, that’s what I always thought [the foreign company] was — just a front.”
Which it no doubt was.
Nozette agreed to be a regular “asset,” yet he clearly felt his position was increasingly precarious. He inquired about the right of return and raised the possibility that he might go to Israel. He wanted a passport as part of his payment, in addition to the few thousand dollars the FBI was putting in a post office “dead drop” for him on receipt of stolen secrets.
Well, then, so what? Don’t all nations, even allies, spy on each other? What’s the significance of this particular case?
On the surface, our relationship with Israel is encompassed by the terms of the “special relationship, ” which has so far consisted of the U.S. giving unconditional support to Tel Aviv’s every action, no matter how brutal [.pdf] or contrary to our interests — and tolerating, to a large degree, its extensive covert operations on U.S. soil (or, at least, keeping quiet about them). On a deeper level, however, the tensions in this one-way love affair have frayed the specialness of the relationship almost to the breaking point.
This is not just due to the election of Barack Obama, who is widely perceived in Israel as being biased against the Jewish state. These tensions arose during Bush’s second term, when U.S. policy began to perceptibly tilt away from Tel Aviv. A particularly telling blow to U.S.-Israeli relations was the decision by the U.S. to clamp down on visa requirements for Israelis entering the U.S.: potential visitors from Israel are now required to undergo an interview, restrictions on their length of stay have been extended, and admission to the U.S. is no longer assured.
In the secret world of spooks spying on one another, the U.S.-Israeli relationship is increasingly adversarial, while in the diplomatic-politica l realm, it has nearly reached the point of open hostilities. This is thanks to the objective conditions that determine relations among nations: in the post-Cold War world, Israel necessarily became much less of an asset to the U.S. In the post-9/11 world, as John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt have so trenchantly pointed out, it is an outright liability.
Our self-sacrificial policy of unconditional support for Israel has earned us implacable enemies in the Arab world and granted our adversaries a priceless propaganda prize — and the growing awareness of this disability is something the Israelis no doubt find disturbing. The distortion of our foreign policy by the power of the Israel lobby is also being widely noted, and this is their real Achilles heel.
In this case, too, the Lobby will no doubt rush to exert their influence to downgrade Nozette’s crime and even depict him as an innocent victim of entrapment. Defenders of the AIPAC duo conjured a vast “anti-Semitic” conspiracy within the U.S. Justice Department and the FBI to explain the alleged persecution of Rosen and Weissman, and the same tactics are bound to be trotted out in this instance.
That is nonsense. The FBI didn’t just pick Nozette arbitrarily and conjure his crimes out of thin air. Their target was already deeply involved with the Israelis, and this is what brought him to their attention in the first place.
The nature and extent of Israeli spying in the U.S. is not a subject you’ll see the “mainstream” media very often touch with so much as a 10-foot pole, but when it does the results can be ominously disturbing. I, for one, haven’t forgotten Carl Cameron’s four-part series on Israeli spying in the U.S., broadcast by Fox News in December 2001. According to Cameron, his sources in law enforcement told him the Israelis had been following the 9/11 hijackers and had foreknowledge of their plans but somehow neglected to tell us. And then there were those dancing Israelis, leaping for joy at the sight of the Twin Towers burning!
This is the dark side of the “special relationship, ” so dark that hardly anyone wants to acknowledge it, let alone consider its implications.
Haven’t we seen this movie b4?
Geo: MQM MPs ready to sit in Opposition
Members of National Assembly and Senate belonging to the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) have strongly demanded of the party’s Rabita Committee that they should be allowed to sit in the Opposition over irresponsible attitude of the Sindh Government.
In a joint statement issued from MQM’s Headquarter Nine Zero on Saturday, the MQM’s Parliamentarians, drawing the Rabita Committee’s attention toward current spree of target killing, said that an important figure of the federal government was repeatedly informed about the irresponsible attitude of the Sindh government. However, it is regretted the federal government failed to take any concrete step in this regard.
According to the statement, everybody in aware that PPP is in power both in federal as well as provincial governments.
“The terrorists of Lyari gang war and other criminal groups have continued to kidnap and kill the innocent activist of the MQM. While some elements of the provincial government are patrioinsing these elements,” it said.
On Jan 8, the Lyari-based terrorist killed five MQM’s workers after kidnapping them. While a day earlier, these criminals kidnapped another activist of the MQM’s Lyari Sector, Sector Unit-2 and subjected him to brutal torture before beheading him.
The MQM’s parliamentarians have demanded of the Rabita Committee that they should reconsider its decision and sit in the opposition benches.
Sub drama hai.
Karachi Ashura video
@nota
wat say u?
Thank you for putting thos article here. Haroon Rasheed is stupid not that I am defending AA but HR barks without confirmation, he is rapidly losing his credibility especially after appearing on Dunger Daaktar’s comedy show every week.
I don’t know why AA spend a good deal of time talking about fee.
In fact HR exactly said what AA defending…..Zardari case needed 24 hrs work and AA had to feed his family i.e. he was not expecting fee.
Now this defense which was not needed make him a suspect….playing with words and laffazi is not a good defense.
I tend to believe HR that Gas permit was issued in BB tenure not in Musharaf tenure.
AA defend that his rivals and arch enemies came to power but they could have revoked quota base permit.
First thing he is shrewd enough not have an enemy…he is known for planting his legs on both sides of fence.
laffazi works both way. HR accused him of fees and AA has explicitly denied that the issue is not fees. Now i like HR but he has mad mistakes in the past he has reported erroneously. Thats the problem with pakistani nation and most muslims we tend to worship personalities. Which btw HR been complaingning abt. But he accused AA of corruption and money hungry stance. All AA did was clarify his position with solid defence so why is that I should not take his words over HR? Is it not feasible HR made mistake or HR has now been included in same list as hadrath maulana CJ (RA) and thus has become innocent and never to commit any mistake lolz
Afzaal,you know that I rarely agree with you but I agree with you on AA. Jazoo has to criticize out of habit no matter what. AA’s clarification is quite clear and to the point, he has only rebutted HR’s baseless allegations. With all his flaws, AA is still better than Zardaro baba and 40 chor.
As for Hadrath CJ, just a few more months and he will be a dead horse. Zardari is the biggest harami we have ever seen. Read Saleh Zaffar’s story on charter of democracy in today’s jang (wednesday).
Fix ur definition of “personality worship”
PW is when u still praise someone after his bad side is exposed…until then its character worship.
ok prof sahib thanks for correcting my grammer :p
qts still remained unanswered
its not grammer its ur basic concept
Now this fatwa should be backed by all ulema in pak and propagated all over pak.
Geo: Saudi cleric bans Muslims from joining al-Qaeda
A prominent Saudi scholar has issued a fatwa banning Muslims from joining al-Qaeda and labeled it a violation of Islam’s teachings, press reports said on Tuesday, amid concerns about the growing strength of operatives in Yemen.
Sheikh Abdul Mohsen al-Obeikan, a top religious scholar and an advisor in the court of King Abdullah, said Muslims who join the militant group and engage in terrorist operations are deviating from the right path of Islam, Saudi newspaper Okaz quoted him as saying.
“Affiliation with the so-called al-Qaeda group is haram,” meaning banned in Islam, al-Obeikan told the paper, adding “It is strictly prohibited to legitimatize the shedding of blood of other Muslims without having the right to do so.”
Obeikan reiterated the official Saudi view that Qaeda’s ideology was one of forbidden “takfirism,” which accuses others of apostasy to justify murdering them.
Anyone who joins al-Qaeda “belongs to a group that has adopted takfir thinking,” he said.
Although there are no more al-Qaeda members in Saudi, the terrorist group is gaining ground in neighboring Yemen, which is now becoming the main base of their operations in the Arabian Peninsula.
Obeikan, who has played a major role in rehabilitation programs of repentant militants, called on al-Qaeda members in Yemen to repent and turn themselves in to the authorities.
The cleric also warned that “Muslims should not also rise against their leaders or create strife among people.”
Sorry guys have been away for a few days.
Coming back to the fatwa how is the fatwa qualified. What is the justification provided in it’s favor.
Surah Maida (paraphrasing)
Kisi qaum ki ziyadtee tumhain is baat par majboor nay kar day ke tum bhi ziyadti karoo.
Here is what Pat Buchanan says about the reasons for the attacks on US interests.
Here is Osama Bin Laden’s reasons for the war against US interests.
Sorry Bin Laden or anyone dun have any right to declare war on anyone specially agaist KSA or Islamic Republic of Iran, Hadith saheeh quotes Prophet (PBUH) as saying, tum par aisey log musallat hongain jin se tum nafrat karoo gay aur voh tum se,
sahaba asked: Ya Rasul ALLAH (PBUH) kia hum phir talwar na uthain>?
Hazoor SAW said nahi, Jab tak voh tumharey darmiyaan namaz qaim karwatey rahain.
Both IRI and KSA do aqamat-us-salat, and no violent means to over throw the government is allwed. Beside this lets assume for a minute Bin Laden does have a right, how many non-muslim infidels Al-Qaeda has killed compare to Muslims they have targetted? Is Bin Laden a mufti is he eligible to give fatwa? And why should I follow his fatwa when I have Quran and Hadith explicitly prohibiting terrorism.
Personally with my non-existent knowledge of the deen I have to agree with you on IRI and KSA.
BTW Osama bin Laden’s statement is addressed to the American people and answers Bush’s infamous statement of “Why do they hate us?”
Now wat is just in targetting non combatants? blowing planes or suicide attacks against the population.
Surah Al Baqrah Ayay 217:
as the words i Highlighted would u not agree that al-qaeda has done is fitana and fasad (tumult and oppression) on islamic world? How that benefits muslims?
and lastly – Surah Al Baqra – Ayat 11 – 12
I will have to read the entire Surah to understand the context.
But I can’t disagree with you about Al-Quaida turning into fitna. But then alot of so called Al-Quaida violence are false flag operations.
@tauqeer
Dun get me wrong the ayat
also fits to USA and so called west and thier democratic intervetuion for world peace. My point is 2 wriongs donot make a right.
What do you have to say about this Aya (51) of Surah Al-Ma’idah
51. O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as Auliy�’ (friends, protectors, helpers, etc.), they are but Auliy�’ to one another. And if any amongst you takes them as Auliy�’, then surely he is one of them. Verily, All�h guides not those people who are the Z�lim�n (polytheists and wrong�doers and unjust).
@tauqeer
Dun make the oliya over muslims. But b4 this ayah Hazoor SAW did treaty with jews called Meesaq-e-medina, surah-e-maidah itself came after Sulah-e-Hadiba which was done with Kuffar-e-mecca. The mssg of ayah is not that we can’t have trade and relationships with non-muslims, just not to do on the expanse of Muslim interest as we been doing over centuries and only when one can survive that blockade. Al-qaeda has created same fitna (and here i will get blasted as being wahabi, but thats ok) as hasab bin sabah or the khareejeen did against Hadrath Ali. Muslims should deal thier internal problem among themselves donot have non-muslim as allies against each other. Thats the message of ayah. As it is further evidence in Quran and by Sunnah Muslims have to respect the treaties they have done with other states irregardless of other states religion. If a group does terrorism in our country by backing of another non muslim state we wont like it how can then we do same to other state, Its simple Ikhlaq and universal humanity concept which ofcoz is given to us by Quran.
Turkey rejects Israeli ‘apology’
Ayalon delivered a rebuke to Celikkol over a Turkish TV drama that Israel considers offensive [Reuters]
Turkey has threatened to recall its ambassador from Israel “to hold consultations” if a row over the envoy’s treatment is not resolved within hours, dismissing Israeli statements aimed at appeasing Ankara.
Danny Ayalon, Israel’s deputy foreign minister, embarrassed Oguz Celikkol, the Turkish ambassador, on Monday, making him sit on a low couch and removing the Turkish flag from the table in a meeting called to convey Israeli protests over a Turkish television series.
“Unless they make up for it by this evening, our ambassador will return on the first plane tomorrow to hold consultations,” Abdullah Gul, the Turkish president, was quoted as saying by the country’s NTV news channel.
Well Done Raza Rabbani kisi main to ghairat hai same mssg i sent to kashif Abbasi. We want world to respect us we have to start respecting ourselves 1st.
http://www.ummatpublication.com/2010/01/14/lead72.html
I wish they had included a 9th point about a thorough body cavity search of Hillary Clinton on her next visit!
ewwwwwwwwwwwww dude just nasty. I still get shudders thinking of those pants suits lol
150 Ullema in Yemen declare that if any foreign troops enter their country no matter on what pretext Jihad will be fard.
Irfan Siddique lays into Sheeda Tali!
How much Irfan Siddiqui gets from PML – N. Aadmi ko apna qalam nahi baichna chahiye lolz Mr. Irfan Siddiqui aka uncle surgum
Funniest ilzam and that coming from PML – N sheeda stayed with dictator. Abay tumhare leader he dictator ka paida kar da hai. And he ran away instead of staying back and fight. Unlike Sheeda who stayed in Jail but didn’t run away. If pindi once again choose stupid PML – N then good 4 pindi they deserve all the crap.
Now now! Look who is complaining about “dictatir ki paida karda”. Jiyala pan knows no bounds. Next Jiyal will be condemning Haroon Rasheed and then we will condemn the entire Gairat brigade in favor of Begairat brigade and it’s chief new darling Sheeda Tali.
Looks like Sheeda fan could not counter the statistics!!!!!!!
Pindi people are wiser then some “wise” guys.
ant no politician here who didnt come out of dictator even Bhutto sahib himself was part of Ayub Cabinet and compaigned against Muhaterima Fatima ali jinnah. Am talking abt journalistic integrity. Irfan has every right, just like athar abbas to defend his party but he should be intellectually honest like Athar abbas and admit so or take a leaf from qasmi who openly beats the drums of NS & SS. Its abt intellectually honesty. For him to give sheeda tha taana of dictatorship is laughable when he himself sat with zia.
An if u think this makes me jiyala bring it on, no skin off ma ass lolz
Irfan Siddiqui is no different than Nazir Naji, bulkay do hath agay hi hai.
This is izzat for fauzia wahab. masla yeh hai fauzia wahab ko izzat raas nahi aate, ja ke americans ke talwey chaat lay milna phir bhi kuch nahi hai. I hope media really takes her to task.
Fauzia Churail ko izzat raas nahin aati. Some people are born to be disgraced.
I wonder now will Raja Prevaiz Ashraf resign ofcoz no lol
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1100829289&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20100118
Ask Geo how they like this aman ki asha
ARY: Pakistani soldier killed in Indian firing at LoC
RAWALAKOT: Unprovoked firing by Indian troops at the Line of Control in Kashmir killed a Pakistani soldier and injured another.
The incident occurred at Keekar sector near Rawalakot, a military statement said.
According to a statement of ISPR, Indian troops opened unprovoked firing at 1:30 am at Keekar sector near Rawalakot today in which a soldier was martyred and another injured.
Pakistan Army has protested over the incident and demanded a flag meeting of the local commanders to discuss the incident.
Pakistan and India had signed a four-year agreement to avoid the border violations. But the violations by Indian troops on rise, as the Indian soldiers last week opened fire at Wagah border and yesterday at the working boundary in Sialkot sector.
It is surrender ke Asha!
Detailed judgment of the SC out. Jiyalas start donning suicide jackets.
Not jiayalas only zardarists.
But wearing Burqa and having a beard will land u in jail :p
MSNBC: Defense contractor has God in its sights
Never doubted that this was a crusade and bloody Mush was a f***ed up foot solider. This is enough for him to be linched.
Hello IPL
Zardari’s finger?
Sorry I miss the joke, what is this IPL?
Indian Premier league, how come u dun folow cricket
Not worth it!!! Saves you alot of heartache.
@Afzal any connections in Haiti? I am free next week and can go over if there is a setup in place. Medicine San Frontier don’t have enough facilities to require more Surgeons.
i cant practice otherwise i would have gone, use to live in neighboring Dominican republic so am well aware of Haiti plight had donated and will ask everyone to donate. Pak army already has base there and had built a mosque in Haiti. So all donations gonna go edhi going so u can donate to eidhi. Please donot ever donate to worldvision. Medicine sans frontiere said they need facilities canada donating medical field hospital. The whole infrastructure whatever it was is gone. So plz donate
Where is nota and Jazoo. Sab ghaib?
Looks like they are just cooling themselves!!! Got too heated!!!
Could not agree with Mushaid anymore.
Lawyers just going same way as everyone else in Pak. They say absolute power corrupts absoilutely. In Pak case its lil power corrupts absolutely. As b4 Courts silent on this khula ghundagardi.
Geo:Media barred to cover Shazia case as accused appears in court
The main accused in maidservant Shazia murder case Chaudhry Naeem advocate has been presented in the court amid tense environment created by lawyers that also threatened media.
The accused Chaudhry Naeem presented in Cantt court on Tuesday. The relatives of Shazia and large number of lawyers were presented at this occasion. The lawyers blamed media for creating hype about the case and tried to stop them to cover the event. On the other hand, the relatives of Shazia were expelled from the court.
Earlier, additional district and session judge Shafiqur Rehman has granted the interim bail to Chaudhry Naeem’s wife and sister-in-law till February 3 and directed the police authorities to submit record. Chaudhry Naeem’s son had already got the interim bail.
The lawyers of lahore have announced their support for the murderer. Wow…they are trying to imply that the killer enjoys PML-n’s support. Zalil k buchay. This is destined to become a big scandal and CJ will have to intervene.
I would have thought you would have argued that in the interest of Justice the case should not be hyped. Surely the man deserves his day in the court. He was shown on Geo and he wants his day in the court so as to make his defense in front of a competent authority. What the f*** is wrong with that.
I didn’t get what you mean….I am trying to condemn the way lawyers are behaving and trying to disgrace PML-n, who has nothing to do with this case. In fact NS was the first leader to go to the victim’s house. WTF is wrong with that?
@Taukeer
Its called coercion. The person is entitle to his day in court accompanied by his lawyer(s). Not teh whole fucking bar association, barring media, pressurizing the judges by sheer numbers and intimidating witnesses. The victim family was kicked out of court. I understand u get jiyala reaction when PML – N name come, but facts are facts.
This will ultimately harm PML-n because the wukla gardi is becoming a norm. ATher Minallah and Justice Nasira just condemned the killer and said those who are with him are criminals. PML-n ki khamakha ki budnami.
Hey! U calling me Jiyala!!! As I stated elsewhere politicising whether by anyone is condemnable.
I think this is a non political issue and I know everyone has been trying to gain political millage out of it. All I want is a fair trial and for the truth to be determined. You allow politicians into this area and you can bid justice goodbye. This will become another of those cases with endless delays like the usual political cases.
Politicizing this case as desired by politicians of all side (SS and Raja Riaz) does not serve any good.
how in God name lawyers coercing the court is politcis? These lawyers shoudl be booked under tauheen-e-adalat and onstruction of justice and thier law licnences be yanked away.
I agree the Lawyers should be barred from participating in the proceedings except as lawyers of the defendants or prosecution.
Exactly my point, I don’t think politicians are to blame in this particular case, it’s a few lawyers who are sending a political message across. I wouldn’t be surprised if Taseer is behind this to budnam PMLN.
Lala ji pachtain gain phir gud.r chaney ki khain gain. Stupid PTI no political sense wats so ever. LOL
Geo: Lawyers Committee delays strike
Lawyers’ National Coordination Committee announced to delay to February 14 the call for strike previously set for January 28, Geo News reported Wednesday.
Supreme Court Bar Association President Qazi Anwar, while addressing a press conference here, said the strike call has not been cancelled; instead, it has been put off until February 14, when in a meeting of the lawyers’ body will decide on the future strategy.
The Committee gave the strike call in favour of Chief Justice of Pakistan and against government’s unwillingness to implement the SC ruling on National Reconciliation Ordinance (NRO).
According to Supreme Court Bar Secretary Raja Zulqarnain, the strike has been put off as the government has assured to act upon the SC verdict on the NRO and now the Committee will meet on February 14 to review the government steps so that any new decision could be taken up in connection with the strike.
Talking to media at Lahore High Court, Raja Zulqarnain dispelled the impression that the lawyers’ call for strike has been taken back owing to opposition from lawyers’ organizations.
Press TV reporting deployment of 300 Pakistani Special forces in yemen. whoever agreed to that is a f***ing moron and should be shot.
its press tv lolz. If u believe presstv then i have a goldmine in karachi im selling very cheap wana buy
No I am just waiting for CNN to report it and BBC to confirm it like they did the I-raK WMD! BTW how much are u selling the gold for?
@Afzal listen to Aaj with Kamran Khan and please “educate me” on how the SC going to ensure compliance with it’s rulings.
LET US JUST BRING BACK DOGAR so that “Mr President” could stay in power to please Jiyalas!
Maybe AA could lead the movement given that he is such a “brilliant mind” of which I have not had the slightest doubt since that fateful day in June 2008 when he called off the “Dharna”.
If I hear NS calling for preservation of the “system” at least I am gone over to PTI and so will the majority of those with some desire for emergence of a just society in Pakistan.
No doubts about AA’s brilliance because despite his calling off the dharna, NS and SS still happilt lick his feet. I wonder why.
I don’t know who licks whose feet and from your comment I am sure you don’t know either. He is a scheming bast***d you might mistake it for brilliance like most people do!
He has been keeping mum about 248 of recent because anyone with elementary knowledge of law and who has read the SC judgement will be well advised to keep mum.
I know our own “bright spark”‘s interpretation is out of this world but then I heard the earth’s magnetic field has suffered some major shift and the north pole is somewhere near Calgary having some serious effect on neuronal interconnections in the surrounding area!!!
@tauqeer
Ok 1st of all I dun ever watch Kamran Khan, I dun like cry babies and he offers nothing but a re-cap of news with music and pathetically dramatic voice, so sorry cant watch it.
2nd I happen to agree with AA on dharna call and time has proved AA stance that it was right call with Judiciary restored. I understand U might have differences with AA, but it was his brilliant tactics that won the day in the end. A movement with ideal and passions and right cause can still fail if they dun have good tactics and grip of political manuvering, case in point JI and PTI, abject failures both and now becoming a mockery.
The goad of restoration of judiciary movement was to restore the judiciary not topple the govt and I on that occassion, agreed with NS decision of restrained and calling off march to keep govt intact which with time has proven to be a right choice.
Now returning to ur qts is how SC gonna ensure their order is implemented, for that ur assuming Govt has to do right away right now. Wrong. Take example of Malik Qayyum, SC called govt to take action against him, malik qayyum hass gone to SC and ask for review. SC has not ruled against the review so case is pending, since its pending in SC govt can’t do much. Same way govt can ask the SC to either review parts of NRO verdict or whole of NRO verdict, it is govt right just as right of any citizen. So this hype of govt not implementing NRO is dishonest and stemming from hatred of zardari.
If u listen to every sane legal mind u will understand that they agree NRO verdict has not clear cut said that Prez has no immunity, if govt takes a stand on article 248 like PM already did then it can’t prooceed with Swiss cases. Obviously now we will need courts to clarify this issue, Govt would be stupid 2 assk the court to do that itself so feel free and ask IK to file a petition :p
This is all legal hullagulla, on practical matters like judges appointment etc these things take time and apart from the roontoo group led by Dr. Dangar aka qayamat kab aaeygee fame SM, everyone agrees to reelax and let things proceed thier natural way. If govt has said they would not then there woiuld have been cause for outrage. PM has stated in assembly they will implement the verdict.
How SC will ensure compilation is easy. For that SC can start with contempt proceedings and can carrry from there all the way to call to all institutions to help carry out SC order, If contempt citings are ignored, a simple resignation by PML – N, MQM from NA and Senate will enforce new electiosn and removal of govt. At no time we need to do muzahira and hartaal till the very end. The stupid calls to arms should be used as last resort as used by Lawyers movemnet. Its time to grow up, these hartaal and muzahira dun help public and hurts economy. They should be used judiciously not to make a politician or wanan be leader look good. There are many venues where govt can be hurt. Starting with NA, where opposition for once instead of only defending dear leader NS should show some balls and start holding govt accountable.
OH BTW since we have only IK as sign of intellectual honesty does it hurt to praise the govt when it does right thing, RM (who should be sacked for incompetence) is proving govt stance by appearing in courts and complying with court rulings, he drives his own car and brings no influence on the courts unlike the PTI led lawyers as evident in Shazia case.
That is the longest bit of tosh. I can hear your brain creaking.
Malik Qayum going to court for review does not prevent implementation of SC ruling unless he obtains a stay order from the same SC. Basic f******* principle. But then how would u know!
WOW, Afghan Govt wow they have even left india in ridiclous claims LOL. Indian masters will be very happy
CNN: Al Qaeda, ISI blamed for Quran burning
De Villepan cleared of Sarkozy smear.
Watch De Villepan in France. Very charismatic figure. Very likely to be next French President in place of Sarkozi.
Haroon Rashid vs Aitzaz Ahsan
@admin this should be the lead article not the rubbish you have put together.
http://fkpolitics.wordpress.com/2010/01/16/haroon-rashid-wins-4-0-vs-aitzaz-ahsan/
u mean HR lost 4-0 VS AA. One article by AA and then complete silence from HR
ARY: Taliban chief Hakeemullah Mehsud killed
Taliban supremo Hakeemullah Mehsud was killed, state television said here on Sunday.
Hakeemullah Mehsud has been buried in a graveyard at Mamondzai area of Orakzai tribal region.
Mehsud was injured in a drone attack in Shaktoi area on January 14 and was succumbed to his injuries three days later, reports said.
Hakeemullah Mehsud was named the new chief of Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan after death of Baitullah Mehsud who was also killed in a drone strike in tribal areas.