Bol Ke Lab Azad Hain Tere – August, 2010
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All members & non-member, the link below is from Huffingtonpost, one of prominent liberal websites. I would like u all to look at comments and if possible spread them to let all pakistanis know how americans really feel abt us. They are so happy that pakistan has suffered the floods and so many have died. May be pass along 2 political workers who can then realize thats how american have felt and will always feel abt us. I deliberately choose a libeeral web site but rest assure u can check most news blogs and wil find the same sentiments across the political, socioeconmic structure. Lot of Indianss commenting there too, but we know all abt them
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/31/pakistan-floods-kill-more_n_666168.html#comments
BBC: Dutch troops to end Afghanistan deployment
One down more to follow soon! Tail between the legs. Thankyou ISI. You make me proud for a change.
Mr Light Weight David Cameron,
You have a long way to go to get rid of the fascist streak from the Nasty Party. Fortunately you have let your mask slip very early in the game despite Ms Wasti window dressing. Yet again you have demonstrated your status as Johny Just Come on the world stage with your complete and utter lack understanding of the sensitivity of the matter that you choose to speak about. Your choice of the venue and words confirms my assertion.
As a Pakistani National I condemn you for your unwarranted comments. ISI might be coming in a place near you!
In the meantime hang your head in shame.
Taukeer
ARY: UK envoy summoned in foreign office
ISLAMABAD: Foreign Office in Islamabad called British High Commissioner Monday and sought clarification about British Prime Minister David Cameroon’s controversial statement against Pakistan.
Cameroon during his recent visit of India levelled terrorism allegations against Pakistan.
British Prime Minister has refused to back down from his statement, which has created a diplomatic row between the two countries.
Pakistan’s Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) had scrapped a scheduled visit of Britain to attend a meeting of security agencies to protest the British prime minister’s statement.
Seriously westren media’s anti-pak rhetoric is getting sad n pathetic.
Here are 2 news item, one from newsweek n one from guaridan.co.uk. Instead of news reporting I would call it proganda and not a good one either, but hey the moron public of west is more then gulliable enuff to swallow it as truth.
Take eg of guardian admiting in same column that the so called intelligence of ISI hand is atleast suspect they still insist ISI and pak must be upto no good.
Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/25/pakistan-isi-accused-taliban-afghanistan
Now the Newsweek piece, which am surprised its called news at all, how abt a propaganda job done hastily. Hilarious thing is the source is Afghan Taliban the same whom the westren media potray as evil, hyporcite liars :p. Also do check out the same militant who admits being on ISI payroll freely admits in same article how much they hate ISI n Pak :p
With Friends Like These…
GEO: FC Commandant Sifwat Ghayur killed in Peshawar blast
PESHAWAR: Commandant FC Sifwat Ghayur along with at least four guards has been killed in a powerful suicide blast in Peshawar area of Saddar, Geo News quoted SP Cantt Wednesday.
The SP Cantonment said the suicide bomber targeted the FC vehicle, adding the injured have been shifted to LRH.
The blast occurred at Deens Chowk, a usually crowded commercial spot. The blast damaged at least three vehicles including one FC’s vehicle carrying Sifwat Ghayur, FC’s Commandant.
The FC Headquarters is situated near the blast site.
The Bomb Disposal Squad, police and other law enforcement agencies approached the area before long and put a security cordon around the blast site.
The firefighters are busy with efforts putting out the fire that encompassed the vehicles after the blast.
IN MEMORY OF THE VICTIMS OF THE BIGGEST LIE EVER
I was born in Nov 1940. and I am a survivor of the bombing of Germany. I spent the first four and a half years of my life running for cover. being hysterically terrrifie, sleeping in a bomb shelter three stories underground. I agree emphatically with Mr. Pilger that the using the two nuclear bombs were the WAR CRIME of all times. To murder two whole cities full of women and children with a weapon such as this! Truman was a stupid corrupt punk with no conscience. as were all his advisors. I know these devices were meant for me and my country men and only the timely end of the war in Europe saved me from that dreadful fate. (My home town was one of the last to be heavily bombed in Germany. ) Eight hundred thousand !! civilians , that is women and children and old men were mercilessly murdered in the bombing of Germany and almost as many in Japan. I kept hearing thing like ” You assholes deserved it because you started it.” Well let me tell you right now, I didn’t start any thing. All I wanted to do was play with my toys and be with my mother. And don’t let me tell you about my mother . The suffering and anguish that poor woman had to go through defy description.
Even if the Germans did start it all, let’s say somebody rapes your wife, are you now going over and rape his wife for revenge? Well, that’s the logic of all those who sprout that kind of crap.
The Lies Of Hiroshima Are The Lies Of Today
By John Pilger
06/08/08 “ICH” — – On the anniversary of the dropping of the atomic bomb on Hiroshima on August 6, 1945, John Pilger describes the ‘progression of lies’ from the dust of that detonated city, to the wars of today – and the threatened attack on Iran.
When I first went to Hiroshima in 1967, the shadow on the steps was still there. It was an almost perfect impression of a human being at ease: legs splayed, back bent, one hand by her side as she sat waiting for a bank to open. At a quarter past eight on the morning of August 6, 1945, she and her silhouette were burned into the granite. I stared at the shadow for an hour or more, then walked down to the river and met a man called Yukio, whose chest was still etched with the pattern of the shirt he was wearing when the atomic bomb was dropped.
He and his family still lived in a shack thrown up in the dust of an atomic desert. He described a huge flash over the city, “a bluish light, something like an electrical short”, after which wind blew like a tornado and black rain fell. “I was thrown on the ground and noticed only the stalks of my flowers were left. Everything was still and quiet, and when I got up, there were people naked, not saying anything. Some of them had no skin or hair. I was certain I was dead.” Nine years later, when I returned to look for him, he was dead from leukaemia.
In the immediate aftermath of the bomb, the allied occupation authorities banned all mention of radiation poisoning and insisted that people had been killed or injured only by the bomb’s blast. It was the first big lie. “No radioactivity in Hiroshima ruin” said the front page of the New York Times, a classic of disinformation and journalistic abdication, which the Australian reporter Wilfred Burchett put right with his scoop of the century. “I write this as a warning to the world,” reported Burchett in the Daily Express, having reached Hiroshima after a perilous journey, the first correspondent to dare. He described hospital wards filled with people with no visible injuries but who were dying from what he called “an atomic plague”. For telling this truth, his press accreditation was withdrawn, he was pilloried and smeared – and vindicated.
The atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a criminal act on an epic scale. It was premeditated mass murder that unleashed a weapon of intrinsic criminality. For this reason its apologists have sought refuge in the mythology of the ultimate “good war”, whose “ethical bath”, as Richard Drayton called it, has allowed the west not only to expiate its bloody imperial past but to promote 60 years of rapacious war, always beneath the shadow of The Bomb.
The most enduring lie is that the atomic bomb was dropped to end the war in the Pacific and save lives. “Even without the atomic bombing attacks,” concluded the United States Strategic Bombing Survey of 1946, “air supremacy over Japan could have exerted sufficient pressure to bring about unconditional surrender and obviate the need for invasion. Based on a detailed investigation of all the facts, and supported by the testimony of the surviving Japanese leaders involved, it is the Survey’s opinion that … Japan would have surrendered even if the atomic bombs had not been dropped, even if Russia had not entered the war and even if no invasion had been planned or contemplated.”
The National Archives in Washington contain US government documents that chart Japanese peace overtures as early as 1943. None was pursued. A cable sent on May 5, 1945 by the German ambassador in Tokyo and intercepted by the US dispels any doubt that the Japanese were desperate to sue for peace, including “capitulation even if the terms were hard”. Instead, the US secretary of war, Henry Stimson, told President Truman he was “fearful” that the US air force would have Japan so “bombed out” that the new weapon would not be able “to show its strength”. He later admitted that “no effort was made, and none was seriously considered, to achieve surrender merely in order not to have to use the bomb”. His foreign policy colleagues were eager “to browbeat the Russians with the bomb held rather ostentatiously on our hip”. General Leslie Groves, director of the Manhattan Project that made the bomb, testified: “There was never any illusion on my part that Russia was our enemy, and that the project was conducted on that basis.” The day after Hiroshima was obliterated, President Truman voiced his satisfaction with the “overwhelming success” of “the experiment”.
Since 1945, the United States is believed to have been on the brink of using nuclear weapons at least three times. In waging their bogus “war on terror”, the present governments in Washington and London have declared they are prepared to make “pre-emptive” nuclear strikes against non-nuclear states. With each stroke toward the midnight of a nuclear Armageddon, the lies of justification grow more outrageous. Iran is the current “threat”. But Iran has no nuclear weapons and the disinformation that it is planning a nuclear arsenal comes largely from a discredited CIA-sponsored Iranian opposition group, the MEK – just as the lies about Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction originated with the Iraqi National Congress, set up by Washington.
The role of western journalism in erecting this straw man is critical. That America’s Defence Intelligence Estimate says “with high confidence” that Iran gave up its nuclear weapons programme in 2003 has been consigned to the memory hole. That Iran’s president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad never threatened to “wipe Israel off the map” is of no interest. But such has been the mantra of this media “fact” that in his recent, obsequious performance before the Israeli parliament, Gordon Brown alluded to it as he threatened Iran, yet again.
This progression of lies has brought us to one of the most dangerous nuclear crises since 1945, because the real threat remains almost unmentionable in western establishment circles and therefore in the media. There is only one rampant nuclear power in the Middle East and that is Israel. The heroic Mordechai Vanunu tried to warn the world in 1986 when he smuggled out evidence that Israel was building as many as 200 nuclear warheads. In defiance of UN resolutions, Israel is today clearly itching to attack Iran, fearful that a new American administration might, just might, conduct genuine negotiations with a nation the west has defiled since Britain and America overthrew Iranian democracy in 1953.
In the New York Times on July 18, the Israeli historian Benny Morris, once considered a liberal and now a consultant to his country’s political and military establishment, threatened “an Iran turned into a nuclear wasteland”. This would be mass murder. For a Jew, the irony cries out.
The question begs: are the rest of us to be mere bystanders, claiming, as good Germans did, that “we did not know”? Do we hide ever more behind what Richard Falk has called “a self-righteous, one-way, legal/moral screen [with] positive images of western values and innocence portrayed as threatened, validating a campaign of unrestricted violence”? Catching war criminals is fashionable again. Radovan Karadzic stands in the dock, but Sharon and Olmert, Bush and Blair do not. Why not? The memory of Hiroshima requires an answer.
http://www.johnpilger.com
What is wrong with website
Where are my previous comments
website went down, I have restored much but wat is gone is gone. Sorry abt lost comments. Am stil trying to get contact forum and poll back.
Did Asif Zardari suffer from prostate cancer?
By
Dr Ghayur Ayub
The other day, I was watching a well known TV talk-show whose guests were; the ex Director General IB, Col Iqbal Niazi along with a well-known columnist and an anchor person of another talk show. They were discussing Mr Zardari’s incarceration in the late 1990s, and how he was purportedly maltreated. I cannot comment about the physical torture AZ was allegedly exposed to or how an alleged attempt was made to assassinate him. But I found obvious twisting of the facts when it came to his medical condition. If I had their contact numbers, I would have called the show to set the record straight because I was privy to certain information on the matter.
I served as Director General of Health, government of Pakistan from December 1996 to October 1999. I was selected in that position by the interim government of Meraj Khalid and was asked to continue when Nawaz Sharif’s government took over in 1997. One Sunday morning I received a call from my private secretary saying that Sen. Saif-ur-Rehman was looking for me and that he had given him my private telephone number so he could contact me. My PS could not tell me what the nature of the call was. Being the Chief of Ihtesab, the Senator was known for his bullying behaviour and scary techniques. I felt a slight twinge in my stomach and started wondering what I had done to warrant a call from him. An hour or so later he rang. That was my first contact with him. He spoke softly and politely and wanted to know if I knew of any cancer specialist. I answered in affirmative and told him that I myself had had training in the field at The Royal Marsden Hospital London. It is one of the most prestigious cancer hospitals in the world. I presumed he wanted to talk about a friend or a relative who suffered from cancer but I was wrong.
Instead, he told me that Asif Ali Zardari was admitted in Agha Khan Hospital where a specialist had diagnosed him with prostate cancer and had advised him to go abroad for further assessment and treatment. Senator Saif-ur-Rehaman wanted a second opinion. I asked him to send the medical records for me to study and if need be to discuss further with other specialists in the field. Three days later, I received a copy of his report. I studied it briefly, it made me smile. Although my main field of oncology training at The Royal Marsden Hospital was breast and colorectal cancers, I did also work in the Urology department from time to time, handling urological malignancies such as prostate cancer. The reason given in the medical report diagnosing Asif Zardari with cancer of prostate was not less than mirthful. I’ll come that later.
I contacted the Senator and gave my initial assessment based on the report but wanted more information so that I could discuss it further with other specialists before coming to a final conclusion. Sure enough, I received more reports. After going through them, it became clear that the reason for sending AZ abroad could be anything but cancer of prostate. The diagnosis was just a ploy. What happened was that the specialist found microscopic heamaturia (tiny amount of blood seen only under microscope) in his urine. This type of finding can be real or it can be adulterated. But this definitely does not mean a person has got cancer of prostate. The more ridiculous finding of the report was that they found ‘cancer cells’ in his urine and linked them with the prostate gland. It was ridiculous because cancer of prostate is not diagnosed with its cells floating in urine. Incidentally, and as a matter of fact, it is only recently the UCLA scientists have identified for the first time cell-of-origin for human prostate cancer, a discovery that could result in better predictive and diagnostics tools and the development of new and more effective targeted treatments for the disease. So, observing prostatic cancer cells in urine, at that time, as primary diagnostic tool was ludicrous.
There are set investigative procedures to reach that diagnosis, such as; digital examination; prostate specific antigen (PSA), an Ultra Sound, a CT or MRI Scan of pelvis including prostate gland; cystoscopy and lastly biopsy. The last procedure could be done as part of open surgery or, alternatively, needle biopsy as preoperative diagnostic requirement. Some specialists avoid needle biopsy because of danger of spread of the disease and thus changing its classification stage. The notes did not show that any of these investigations were done. It, definitely, did not fare well for Agha Khan Hospital which, I personally knew, had the highest medical standards. Anyway, I took the report and discussed it with two of the top urologists of the country. They were as surprised by the findings as I was and one of them felt embarrassed as he knew the specialist who suggested the treatment abroad.
Now, I had two choices; either to speak to the specialist or talk to the president of AKDN, Dr Shams Kassim-Lakha. Agha Khan University and the hospital came directly under him. I opted for the latter because I knew him personally. He was in France when I called him. I explained the situation. He apparently wasn’t aware that one of his specialists had recommended AZ’s treatment abroad. When I told him about the clinically weak ground his specialist based his diagnosis on and that it could bring a bad name to his prestigious institute, he realised its severity. He said he was going to take the next flight back to Pakistan and asked me to hold on to the reports.
Three days later, he was in Islamabad. After going through the papers, he understood my point. He, then, picked up his mobile, went out of the room and spoke to someone. I presumed it was the specialist involved. On re-entering the room, looking annoyed, he could only utter something like, ‘these politicians can go to any length.’ Obviously, the poor specialist was put under pressure by AZ or one of his friends to falsify medical report. Did they threaten the specialist; I didn’t know, neither did I ask. Dr Lakha promised that a false report could never be issued by Agha Khan Hospital no matter what the consequences. He stood by his promise. I was told later, when AZ was asked to go through proper investigative procedures to confirm the diagnosis, he declined. As far as Senator Saif-ur-rehman was concerned, he took a sigh of relief as he was also under tremendous pressure from powerful lobbyists both within and outside the country to send AZ abroad for his supposed cancer of prostate.
Shame on this retard doc. He was asked to render medical opinion as soon as he undertook the task Zardari became his patient and he has violated the doctor patient previlage.
afzaalkhan
You do not get it.
He was not asked by patient to render his opinion…so there was no patient doctor relationship…He rendered his opinion on demand of authorities who pay him and he made it public on people’s trust by whose money he was paid by authorities so theres no moral turbidity on part of this very honorable doctor.
Mostly you are ridiculous but sometimes your comments are ludicrous and this is one of those soemtimes.
seriously now saif-ur-rehman is the one we should trust LOL. Dun be blind by hate buddy
Its neither about Saifur-Reahman nor about Doctor who disclose it.
Its about the moral duty of a paid employee of state to disclose unfair practice to people from whose money his salary is paid.
When I said you did not get I mean you did not get and still you are not getting it.
This doctor was not hired by Zardari and not paid by Zardari so theres no breach of trust…which you still not getting.
This doctor was state employee paid by people’s money…As an honest doctor it is his duty to disclose unfair practice to people.
I am intellectually mediocre but with your stupidity you make me tall.
Lol! U r right. There is no issue of doctor patient relationship. The state could seek a doctorS opinion on the authenticity of a claim.
By submitting the said report to the govt. AZ had waived his privilege.
Afzal man u need to take some intellect pills. I know someone in NY who has good results. His success stories include AZ! Not!
I understand doc giving his evolution to govt as they asked for his opinion. To write a column abt is bad.
He is just correcting a matter of public record. Pure and simple but then u won’t understand!
Terror Babies: WOWWWWWWWWWW and Pakistanis r nuts? LOL
Rep. Louie Gohmert and CNN’s Anderson Cooper engage in a spirited debate over the lawmaker’s “terror babies” claims.
Well ANP showing its true colors and then they wonder why MQM kill thier karkun. Stupid morons.